Oh, and that medical issue you’re talking about? That’s the same excuse they have for Jack and Kevin being top-only. Jack I can accept topping but Kevin Warhol is a horrendous top. And why doesn’t Sascha Chaykin have this so-called medical issue? He kept bottoming right up until he left. Still wish his brother Roman had stayed a lot longer.

You’re right. That’s how I lost interest in Alex Orioli and some other models. If you’re going to be top-only then you need to vary your game up. That’s what’s wrong with Austin Wolf and another user out here worded it perfectly about him: Austin doesn’t allow his partner to get off and he annoys me so much playing with his nipples constantly. I play with mine but it’s not an every-time thing in order to get off like with him.

He sure got hella boring when he went top only, kinda like so many others before him, like Sebastian Bonnet. I think they even made up some story for Seb, saying he had a medical issue, was it? Seb was alright, but nowhere near special enough to go on and on top only.

Josh was hit and miss with me at times. Sometimes I liked him and other times I didn’t really car for him.

I think I have that scene with Josh and his brother…somewhere around here.

Also, I need to correct something: I mistook your talking about Manuel and thought it was directed to Ennio. One source I saw had Manuel’s DOB as 1984 but it wouldn’t surprise me if he were older because Ethan Marc lied about his age and said he was born in 1978 when he was born in 1972.

Well, lookie, lookie. Also seems as though he was Rudolf Zotkov of Power Men.

Well I sure thank you for having a name. I know that Josh Elliot’s brother had a dual-solo with him but that was the first and last time we saw him and there was another model who came with Jason Knightley but that was his only scene with BA.

I looked on the GEVI and apparently I was only partially right about Bebe, aka Mario Sarda for Bel Ami. He’s credited in Out At Last 3: Cocktails but I think where I got confused was that he was shot in a scene that was supposed to be in the Personal Trainers series but was cut due to reasons unknown and then Duroy created the Out At Last series, which was a collection of scenes that were shot for various projects but were not included in them so he put them all together and then sold DVD’s of those scenes.

The scene includes Sebastian Bonnet At, Josh Elliot Ab, Oliver Krist At, Dano Sulik At, Mario Sarda Ab where At means topping and Ab means bottoming, as you probably already know.

Was he really? I had no idea Bebe was with BA but I should have known. I mean, I had no clue that Karl Tenner was a BA model because I found him on Falcon first. Same goes for Denis Reed and Pavel Novotny.

Yeah, that Bebe dude was in a Bel Ami Personal Trainers episode, the one where they shoot on location in a cabin, can’t remember the number. I remember Duroy making fun of the name Higgins gave him.

Yeah, Alan was a good model and back then they left their hair alone!!!

I’ve been wondering the same thing. There was a guy named Bebe (on Bad Puppy and WH) who shot a scene with Pavel Novotny, IMDb had his DoB listed as 1984 which couldn’t have been true because his first scene was in 2000 which would have made him 16. I believed other sources that said he was born in 1981.

I remember Roman, Renato and Kurt. One model I wish had more move was definitely Alan Connery. To say he was beautiful was an understatement and he was actually gay.

So, the GEVI is in error or he started at age 16?

I don’t quarrel with your examples but I wonder how many scenes each of them released. Another MAJOR difference is the bareback factor, tho a very few bareback scenes were shot in the before time, but nevertheless, if Bel Ami fans were rabid with condoms they became absolutely frenzied once bareback showed and BA gained many new fans.

My nobody-knows-them blast from the past models are Roman Prada and his picture perfect happy trail and Renato Amoroso, just off the top of my head. Prada only appeared very briefly. I loved big ole goofy looking Kurt Diesel, especially his bottoming scenes.

He’s almost 30 (will be in February last time I checked). And I’m hurt after another user out her told me that Raphael Nyon is doing straight porn with old women. Yuck.

Anyway, I long for the BA models of yore that people seem to have forgotten. Sure we’re familiar with Julian Armani, Max Orloff/Pavel Novotny, Lukas Ridgeston and the Ion Davidov but what about Alan Saudek…
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Ken Russel…
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Karl Tenner…
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Martin Valko…
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or Marty Bevins…
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… who’s still around as one of the cameramen?

I feel like these gorgeous men are hidden gems. Hell, there were guys around Julian Armanis’ time that I remember vividly like Sean Ellis and Yves Carradine. Just so disappointing and yet some of these newbies will be remembered faster than they will. People remember Phillippe Gaudin but not his brother/cousin Henri.

Glad you mentioned Rios’ face. Ugh…a real double bagger and I’ve said it a dozen times before. How old is he now? Like 35? Not without error, the GEVI cites his first scene in 2004…and if he was 18 then, survey says, 32, at the very least. I know, who cares about real age, guys only care about apparent age. I just bring it up because he just keeps showing up. Another veteran that keeps showing up is Ariel Vanean who debuted in 2007, reportedly. While not gorgeous reigning most beautiful Bel Ami boy to ever live, I much much much prefer Ariel even tho he doesn’t have Rio’s gym bunny body or his big dick.

As for 3-ways and all the porn acrobats double this and double that, zzzzzzzzzz. Bryan at Chaos used to complain all the time because scenes using more than two models were “so expensive” to shoot because of the extra model fees then on the other hand Lucas Ent seems to shoot 50% of their scenes with 3, 4, 5 and 6 guys. Makes my head hurt. The more models, the lazier they can all be.