Hope he cums back!

Seriously call the law enforcement tough cunt. Remain bothered while Clay keeps on creeping and winning 😘

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Go ahead idiot flag bearer of morality on a porn site. Meanwhile this is the type of ad playing on mainstream porn sites.

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When did you become a porn star?

Happy Thanksgiving! I hope you and all who read these threads have plenty for which to be thankful.

You shouldn’t feel the need to not read any posts or threads. The more viewpoints, the better IMO (as long as they are presented respectfully). That is important in understanding diversity.

I feel similarly about old, fat, and/or uglycreeps. I’ve had my share of fending them off. But I understand that some guys might be attracted to them. What interests me is why they would be attracted.

The biggest issue IMO is how religious leaders have used the cloak of religion to hide their predation. It interests me to understand how people can still follow those religions and protect them.

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After much thought, I am just going to recuse myself from these site updates. I am coming off wrong if it looks like I am landing on someone’s look rather than the message, which sincerely was not at all my intent.

I do really enjoy the discussion found on here, it occurs to me that we discuss things that honestly most people never discuss even in really intimate friendships. My nature is geared to the literal, which can be a disadvantage especially if a subject has direct ties in that sense.

It also occurs to me we all look at things like this from differing vantage points in life, I have no doubt I may perhaps look at things like this differently one day, surely not the message, but the sex.

My best friend and I would never agree for a second on the basics of what we find attractive in men, but we are life long friends – and I wouldn’t trade him for the world.

Have a great Holiday ya’ll!! XOXO

I’ve found it very easy to avoid them. I just instantly block any that I see on gay apps. In person, I do the same – completely ignore them. I’ve only been with guys I’m fully into my whole life. Gay apps make it easy to pick and choose carefully. In my opinion, the victims are the naive emotionally unstable teens that fall for fat ugly old men because they are nice to them. For them all it takes is a guy that takes the time to talk to them and be nice. That’s wrong, but manipulation happens in all facets of life. Hopefully those young twinks learn from their mistakes.

If a fat old man touched me without asking, I’d put him in his place and he wouldn’t do that again.

I think you’d be surprised at some of the men I find attractive. If you are going to dissect my intent, it is very much the concept of this site. I won’t lie – I find Clay repugnant, but not as much for his looks as for the shit he has pedaled through this site. In short his words and actions made him ugly to me.

I am well aware that everyone’s taste in men can be wildly different. My best friend was HEAVILY into older daddy types, and we often made fun of each other over our choices. THAT is entirely different than this. If you read that write up and don’t see that, well your right, our views are abstractly different. There are a thousand ways to paint an older meets younger, younger pursues older stories.

But I digress. I used Caber as a for instance, take that for what it’s worth. You’ll note I changed the scenario as well, or maybe you saw Caber and drew an immediate conclusion right there. He was the only grey daddy type who’s name I can remember. I do find it curios that you think an older guy needs a young guy to look virile. But hey different strokes.

My issue with ALL of these sites is with the premise they project. As if an older guy no matter HOW he looks has to be in a position of authority or a skeezy creeper/potential sex offender, or insest driven situation to have sex with a younger guy – or the other way around. WHY. Why the fuck is that!

As I said, I am by no means religious, but the idea that a porn studio decided to center it’s older/younger scenes around a compound of religious “moonies” just runs against my grain. I have deliberately stayed out of those updates because you and a couple of the other guys were so into the scenes. But seriously, I find it ludicrous that the only way gay men see older/younger younger/older what the fuck ever is through these filters.

You think this site was designed to spark that reaction, and you don’t see anything wrong with this – then we will have to agree to disagree.

EDIT: I was just looking at the stills again, they actually look like they could be related, Ryan looks like a very young version of Clay, make of that what you will.

I don’t even think it a question of morality per se, This has more to do with just basic human decency and there is a difference. Porn is no doubt a sordid wonderland of fantasy, but to completely throw social consciousness to the sharks for a dollar? Seriously, have people become that numb?

It’s really tough to say. Some boys in high school are prone to telling other guys they’ve scored, but sometimes it’s just talk to make one seem cool and in with the in crowd. I’ve known a couple people (one straight, one gay) that have claimed to have lost their virginity around the 12-13 range, which was pretty shocking to me. I also went to high school with a pregnant girl. All of these people (and me) went to a really small, agricultural school. I started masturbating to thoughts of guys at 9 or 10, but didn’t know what it was called or what sex really was or that I was gay at that point. But some of the Corbin Fisher models claimed to have lost their virginity pretty late, such as Phillip (19). Who knows?

As long as all the models on WB are of legal age, that’s fine with me. I am getting sick of this tendency though that, whenever a twink or a twunk or a short guy pops up, for some to scream child porn. It isn’t. Different strokes for different folks. I tend to prefer attractive, fit clean-shaven young men with hair as opposed to fat, old, ugly, balding, bearded men.

I agree. I have learned much from reading these posts. The biggest lesson for me is that there is great diversity in perspectives, which, of course, will derive from the diversity in experiences people have. I like to see perspectives and experiences that are different from my own.

In this particular thread, there are issues of legality and morality that are being conflated. As for legality, this site must comply, or it wouldn’t be around still. Morality is the big issue here, and that discussion could go on for a long time.

I agree, and I really do try to keep an opened mind, but this site, this man.. even if it were all a total hoax to sell his brand of porn (I don’t think that is the case) WHY. Gay men have fought this stereotype forever, and it is tragic enough these stories are real for way too many kids.

Porn is not an excuse to throw decency to the dogs. I am far from being some right wing stan, but I am painfully aware how this all looks and reads to a certain demographic who will turn shit like this on us every chance they get. This isn’t “edgy” it’s trash, and the guy is a dumpster.

Ryan on BSB, or CM, Corbin Fisher or Sean Cody – hell even Men, would be a find. I am no expert on hot older porn stars but as I said I consider Dirk Caber to fit that image. But never in this scenario. It’s just not okay.

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This is why I read this board. These comments are so much more interesting to me than just people being bitchy or judging the personal lives of the models for unexamined reasons. There aren’t many boards where this discussion is even possible.

“PS Just to be clear, I think all guys find young guys sexy and always will.”

Not me. Without the dads and the bishops on Family Dick and Mormonboyz, I wouldn’t even click through on their updates. I only find the young guys sexy because it makes the older guys look more virile.

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Well, what if Dirk Caber goes to frat parties routinely? The more you explain, the less we agree. We agree on the unsafety of porn (not because it’s bareback but because it’s porn). But your Dirk Caber hypothesis strongly implies one of my earlier theories, that you just don’t like Clay because you don’t find him attractive. This is like that SNL sketch where the sexual harassment video said it was okay for Tom Brady to walk around the office in tighty whities.

One thing that surprises me about message boards is when people go past finding people unattractive into actually getting angry at them. The “these two would never have sex otherwise” theory is a projection of your individual taste onto the rest of the world as a would-be truth. I’m just encouraging you to examine that part of your argument. You can’t know Ryan’s taste in men, and you can’t give Dirk any rights you wouldn’t give Clay. Otherwise, you’re not just politicizing physical beauty, you’re litigating it.

I think all of this is moot anyway because I don’t believe a word of the description. I think it was designed to spark your reaction, which theoretically makes it seem more authentic to the guys who go for this fantasy.

I’m ok with it when I can picture them being genuinely into each other. That’s why I’m ok with a hung muscular hot daddy fucking a cute twink. I know twinks like hot older men, so I see that as ok. MormonBoys typically has hotter older men, that’s what I’m ok with. I’ve never actually watched the talking parts of the MB videos tbh – I always just watch the sex scenes. I don’t take porn too seriously. I try to just enjoy the sex. I also enjoy Fraternity X videos. Being gang banged by a bunch of horny jocks is a hot fantasy that I enjoy watching. You could say it’s rapey? I don’t see it that way. It’s a typical dom/sub fantasy roleplay.

Big age gaps can be awkward. My 80 yr old neighbor has a boyfriend that is 45. I don’t get it, but he loves her… supposedly!

Like you, younger/senior (fat old and ugly) is disgusting to me. RB is gross to me.

I have accepted that some of my distaste for old fat creeps relates to my own experiences with them and their inability to keep their damn hands to themselves. As for the MB thing, I just turn a blind eye to that, I do understand some things are just part of the territory, but this site, BHH and any of the recent rash of incest sites.. fuck all that.

PS Just to be clear, I think all guys find young guys sexy and always will. If you had this guy and Dirk Caber meeting by chance at a party, and skulking off to a room for some one on one – THAT would be hot.

I am for sure no Helix stan, but Helix is not the only porn company using 18 year old models, Johnny Forza was only 18 when he started at BSB. In fact MUCH of BSB was. I still found him really sexy (granted I was only 23) but he was in his element.

His scenes with Daddy Mugs were disturbing. Anybody with Daddy Mugs would be disturbing to me lol. The little bit I watched, Johnny looked utterly humiliated, the sight of him trying to suck the fat dude’s dick with all the front butt in his face.. I felt traumatized for him. He must have been at a real low spot. Still mugs was just an old fat John.

THIS. This is different. This guy is peddling a predator thing, and the law should look into him. Sometimes the real creeps actually do hide in plain sight.