Okay.

Same. There’s no way to justify it and even throwing Vander out there isn’t gonna fix this mess. It’s 2019 Bryan what’s the matter with you???

Fuck him and that’s on everything! I just made a comment in the Vander post about how I’m not supporting this site (legally) ever again until he comes out and explain why he did what he did.

A lot of people wouldn’t because their argument has always been about “history” and people never pushed too far back on it other than basically stereotyping them as a “redneck”.

Yeah, I know what you were talking about, but that is from the outside perspective. (Or rather that is how white people use “model minority” on other minorities, or observations of that)

You can’t comment on perspective from the inside while holding an outside perspective, otherwise it is basically saying things like “What are you complaining about? Of course Black people are all good at sports and have big dicks”.

Really, I think more than reflecting on the idea of “model minority”, it’s just people thinking they are white or like white people and thus are in-group with those people, when actual white people and others think otherwise (especially when topics of racism come up). It’s kind of like those people whose actual racial background really only comes up when it is time to apply for college scholarships.

Who knew he was so desperate? He knew this shit was disgusting when he did it. Good luck with all of it, Bryan.

I hate you because I actually chuckled at this comment. Bryan ain’t shit for this though.

Evil always show its ass eventually. What’s done in the dark…

That may be what you *think* model minority means, but it doesn’t. The term goes back decades and it isn’t about individuals who succeed. It’s about how groups are positioned against each other. As in: “the US can’t be racist because Asian Americans are doing well, so Black Americans must be to blame for their own position.” In that scenario, Asian Americans (as a group) would be held up as “the model minority” whom other groups should emulate.

If you know enough about that flag to want it permanently emblazoned on your body, you have to know something about what it symbolizes. And do you know how long there have been Asians and Latinx folks in the US South? Centuries. They know the racial landscape there, too.

I saw some of those exchanges! I remember him wishing racial violence on a black poster. I trust you on the rest, because you don’t lie (and you keep impeccable receipts). Thank you, again, for the encouragement. Maybe the intervention planted some seeds. And if not, it leaves a record for other people to see the defensiveness, the deflections, and the weaponized stupidity.

No, you wouldn’t.

Believe me, I’m right there with you. The one you started the conversation with actually thinks he’s not a bigot. But in the several years he has been posting here he has used the n word repeatedly in conversation with me (he actually wrote one time he hated the word “negro” because it sounded too close to n****r), he assumed I had dark skin because I’m Black and then proceeded to repeatedly make jokes about me being dark, he literally said I was a slave and wouldn’t dare stick up for models of color because I might anger my massas on this site, and he wished another Black poster (wh he also made jokes about being dark-skinned) would become the victim of racial violence so he would know what true bigotry feels like. He even used an image of Bre’r Rabbit from Song of the South to backup some nonsense comment he made. When I explained the offensiveness of that character being associated with that movie, he went into this spiel about how the character originated from Native AMerican trickster lore and it shouldn’t be offensive. He is truly a heinous and deluded individual. But what bothers me the most is that people will ki ki with him like he’s actually a good person. As many times as I pull out these receipts and show screenshots of what he was written it’s like poster have short memories. I don’t. Especially not for someone who talks about respect models and how they look, but goes out of their way to attack people because of their color.

Just in relaying all this once again it still bothers me. It bothers me that people haven’t called him out on his bullshit. It bothers me that the site continues to allow him to post here. So when I saw you conversations with him and that other clueless trashbox, I wanted to give you every upvote in existence. I’m tired of people allowing others to say disgusting, bigoted thing and get away with it. You didn’t change their mindset in the least, but everything you wrote needed to be stated.

I’m sure those people exist, but the whole “model minority” complex… I feel like you got to be gentle with that because you don’t want to pit minority against minority. I think the real thing is some people think they are “whiter” than most other people acknowledge.

However, the whole “Model Minority” thing, at least from my experience of knowing many people that touch that comment feel it more as a negative complex or pressure to reach a high bar only to be spat on for achieving it. So while I’m sure there are people that think they are untouchable, model minorities, I feel like for the most part that is like saying a black person for being good at sports is something a surprisingly number of black people feel good about as a stereotype.

I just think for the most part, the people you are talking about are more likely to say they are white or like white people, than say they are a “model minority so it’s different” or at least mean such. (Because really I’ve only heard that as a negative in the past) Then I feel like you listen to some hispanic Trump supporters, especially the really loyal supporters seem to downplay their hispanicness.

Yeah, but unless he got the tattoo in the last couple of years, you would pretty much have to be white (or black) to really know that has to do with white supremacy.

Thank you, Scrapple. I’d decided that I’d had as much as I could take of people moving the goalposts so far that no one could possibly be racist—except people of color who testify to being injured by racism.

The thing that used to surprise me, but doesn’t now, is that so-called colorblind people are just as defensive (and aggressive) as the people they call the real racists. They just draw the line of when colored folks have gone too far in different places.

For real. His fake blue contacts make it seem even more intentional.