He was at CM first, then CF, then BSB. He was there I think before the 2020 shutdown was going into effect.

I don’t remember Abram’s CF name. He did a solo scene and at least one straight scene.

That’s one happens when you put all your dicks in one anal basket.

Calhoun went to BSB after CF? Wait… I think I’m confusing BSB and Chaos Men. LOL! Ah yes… I know Drake Tyler. He did a scene with Smith at CF as far as I can remember. I’m not sure who Abram Hoffer is though.

Possible. But then again, both muscle bottoms are out of CF now.

Yeah, if you’re banned you can still surf the site, you just can’t post (unless your IP is disguised).

He wasn’t on good terms with the Bigot around those last posts. Maybe he got tired of the bullshit and went elsewhere.

Leo and Jesse aren’t the only guys who came from CF though. Calhoun was at CF before he went to BSB. I think Abram Hoffer was too. And Drake Tyler. There was that model who had his scenes pulled because he wasn’t yet 18, Early Jacob. There are also a handful of models like Reece who they could’ve kept in touch with. Quinn and Sebastian were still popular when they got the boot, so anything is possible.

I don’t think they wanted Bottom Jesse competing with Bottom Zander. Who needs two muscle bottoms?

If I have to guess, Leo had the same experience that’s why BSB said it, although maybe there’s more in the past. If they indeed put Kyler in the backburner, then they really are stupid. This is actually my worry now that they’ve been expanding their vault. GH’s huge vault is also the reason why they have no problem letting models go and I’m hoping CF won’t go to the extreme like GH does.

What’s funny is that the only time we saw the real Jesse at CF was on a straight scene with a freakin’ dildo. LMAO!

I also went back to this message board where he posts regularly and I noticed he hasn’t been posting as much lately. And judging by how salty he was about Elian’s interview, it seems he can still access that place. But I hope you’re right ’cause I don’t wanna deal with that fruity guy ever again.

When have we known CF to make sense? The BSB guy used the word “notorious” about CF not calling models back. So it couldn’t have just been Jesse who told him that. I’ve been saying for years how Daniel said that exact same thing. There was also that mess with Harris and his bottoming. They’re not the most professional of studios. Not since they made that first move to Vegas and lost a lot of the BTS people like Mika. They used Kyler in a lot of scenes in a short amount of time. I can very much see them putting him on the backburner because they feel they have enough scenes with him for now.

Outside of that last BSB scene, Jesse has been exclusively bottoming. Not just a regular bottom, but a slampig bottom. Which isn’t how CF portrayed him. Because that’s not the image they wanted for him. Just like they didn’t want to tap into the homeless bit, or the survival sex thing.

That’s the thing, it wasn’t misspelled words. It was alternative spellings which you wouldn’t find in the US. You’re right, he was all about numbers, but this person seems more statistical. Or more analytical than fruit guy. Who knows.

Yeah, I saw his posts on that other place so that’s what I thought too at first, but there’s something familiar about him especially after we talked. Remember, it’s not the first time he pretended to be a completely different person. It wasn’t just the attitude towards Dane but also his penchant for counting scenes and his flex on his supposed CF knowledge, not to mention the subtle shade thrown on WB commenters. The misspelled words, the writing style and the avatar also felt like an effort to throw off suspicion (especially considering he was easily caught the last time he pretended to be someone else). So I went back to other places where I saw him before and what really convinced me was when he said on another place that he’s not a fan of Connor.

If it’s not him, then I hope he won’t be as problematic as that fruity guy.

I doubt CF didn’t call him back like they did with Jesse considering how popular he is. Him, Roman and Noah are pretty much the big three in their batch. It would be real stupid of them not to call back one of their emerging superstars at the time. Also, the other two (who filmed just as often as Kyler last year) are still there so the rates probably isn’t bad. But I didn’t know they bought a house so if that’s the case, then the money issue makes more sense.

The whole Jesse situation was a little odd. I doubt being a bottom was a factor since they had no problem getting more bottoms after Jesse debuted. It’s either a popularity issue or something related to what was said about his cam shows. But I’m probably reaching with the latter so let’s not go there. LOL!

Oh, that one. I think I’m good on where our relationship is at.

Edit: I know who you’re talking about and I don’t think it’s the same person. For one, this person posts on that other site and that old poster was banned there. Unless he changed his IP address or is using a VPN, that wouldn’t be possible. The language style and syntax are also different. That older poster was from the US and judging from certain word spellings, I’d say the new person is from Canada or Europe.

But the biggest thing is that avatar. Considering what a sticking point that was, I’m not sure that older poster would’ve picked that for a new persona. Even to be ironic.

That’s the part I’m not sure of, because there are some studios who pay you a certain amount per scene. And there are others who pay you a certain amount based on you committing to several scenes, so when you take in the average per scene it’s much lower. FratX might be like that, since you shoot one scene over several days and it gets all chopped up into multiple scenes. But like I said before, CF is “notorious” (that came from Jesse’s BSB interview) for not calling models back. Didn’t Ashton and his gf buy a house not that long ago? It could’ve been a situation where CF made promises about money and he was counting on that money for the house purchase. That could explain how he seemed to be bouncing around all these different studios in a short period of time.

My fave part was when the person mentioned Ashton eating and fucking pussy and he was like “Where’d you see that at?” He couldn’t even remember his straight scenes at CF. Or for that matter, whatever he did at Peepshow.

Jesse sounds like he would’ve still been working there if they had called him back. I’m curious if the reality of Jesse wasn’t matching up to who they were trying to portray him as. Everything from the homeless to how much Jesse clearly loves some dick wasn’t stuff CF touched on during his time there. Could be they wanted a muscle top, but ended up with a muscle bottom and decided it wasn’t worth it.

I have so many “crusties” it’s hard to keep track. You’ll have to be more specific.

It’s really running on fumes. Filming with the same five guys over the course of a week isn’t working out for them.

most of his tats may be ugly but his cutie face counteracts all the bad

I’m not very much into Jesse so I can’t think of a pairing I would like for him at GISP. Maybe Austin himself? I’m sure Jesse can handle him. But ooh… I want Dan Evans and Kyler. That would be hot. And I don’t mean to endorse piracy, but you’re better off watching ANY Sketchy Sex scene elsewhere. LOL!

Go to some of the recent CF threads and you’ll easily spot him if you’re familiar with his fruity personas before. I knew it was him ’cause the passive-aggressive jumped out when he talked about Dane and listed down in detail the number of scenes he’s done on two separate CF threads. I engaged in a fairly decent convo with him about 2 days ago as I wasn’t entirely sure it was him, but that convo pretty much confirmed his identity to me. LOL!

“Totally off-topic, but did you notice your bestie is back under a different name?”

Give me a hint! LOL!

Austin Wilde has photos with Jesse on his Twitter. LOL, you know that he wants a piece of Kyler as well! I would like to see Jesse bottom for Christian Wilde and Dan Evans. If Sketchy Sex’s scenes weren’t so poorly filmed and directed, I would join their site because the clips of Jesse bottoming are hot. GISP doesn’t update often, but I usually enjoy that studio’s scenes. It will be interesting to see where Kyler ends up.

You know Austin won’t miss the opportunity to get his hands on a CF model. LOL! I wonder if Kyler will also film at GISP. That would be interesting.