Thanks! Hard to believe, but I know I had already been commenting awhile when SC went bareback in 2010 (or was it 2011?), so it must be at least a dozen years.

I was going to say I could talk your ear off about this, but really, I already have. What I love about Leo in addition to all else you said is that even though he looks spectacular, he also looks so accessible. He doesn’t have Rocco Steele’s dick or Cade Maddox’s chest, etc. He looks like a gorgeous guy next door, not a gorgeous male stripper whose every move has a price tag. God, I miss so much of what porn used to be.

Brandon and Pierce (almost) literally broke the barrier in very late 2011. I always forget that Brandon slid in raw first because Dennis, Calvin, and Jordan were more memorable, and that was Jan. 1, 2012. Actually technically, Sean Cody was first because he made one faceless appearance on his own site, if I’m not mistaken, with someone sitting on his cock. I have no idea what year that was, and that would be too much work to verify.

I was well before that because I remember that I was here when Vander appeared at CM in 2010. How long before that I was commenting, I don’t know. I googled my user name with waybig and 2008 and got a Fratmen result. When I tried 2007, Google claimed that the results “weren’t many,” or some such. The cocksuremen bareback summer orgy was 2008, and I was coming here very frequently by then because I thought that was about the greatest thing that had ever happened to porn. (And it ranks highly with me to this day!)

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I never heard about (or forgot) Christopher as stunt-dicker, though it sure seems feasible given his equipment. But for the specific scenes I’m thinking of it really looked like Ashfield, including the surrounding areas that were visible.

Also convincingly versatile. He took Rick Donovan and Lance with no problem, but in Spokes and the scene with the title character in Sailor, he was topping. Actually in Spokes, I think he did both.

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He totally did both in Spokes, he tops the guy they’re initiating and bottoms for almost everyone else―lucky him, those guys were so hot. Was going to mention Spokes, but that one is not William Higgins, anyway I love how confident he looks in those films, like he knows his way around other people’s naked bodies all too well, he moves you and fucks you and you might even shut up and do nothing cos he ain’t waiting for you 😂

I try very hard not to think about it because I encountered those films before I knew of that practice. But yeah, once you know that they did that sort of thing and once you know the mastur-piece between David’s legs, it’s impossible to unsee him pretending to be a variety of guys. As you imply, it’s almost hotter knowing it was him, but I’m loyal to the fantasies in the storylines!

Good to see your name pop up in my new replies, btw! A fellow O.G. Do you know exactly how long you’ve been commenting here? (I don’t know when I started.)

I think it’s the latter. Higgins early work happened in an era when it was actually dangerous to be a high-profile gay director. (Legal troubles were rampant.) Makes a lot more sense that he was the genius auteur in the beginning and lazy or uninvolved in the end, although I fully grant that both of your scenarios are possible.

Leo was always a hungry wolf, which I love so much.

Oh my … memories of David Ashfield.
Regarding stunt-dicking another name comes to mind: wasn’t Michael Christopher known for that?

And what about Casey Donovan? Man, did he have a libido.

This great erotic creativity (in terms of story, camera-is-alive videography, and direction) just doesn’t compute when it’s supposedly the same William Higgins that is responsible for the supremely UN-creative Czech material. Maybe there was some additional crew who made huge contributions to Higgins’ heady early classics. Or maybe he has really had no actual involvement in making the Czech porn. Even the long writeups have always been so sadly paint-by-numbers and un-titillating.

Ashfield’s historic cock was the penis used in the stunt-dicking done in a lot of the gayporn of the late eighties. The mostly unfortunate practice of stunt-dicking (e.g., trying the make people think that, say, cute Steve Hammond was actually doing the bare penetrating when he *wasn’t*) — was almost defensible when a dick as prime as Ashfield’s was often serving as the stand-in.

This great erotic creativity (in terms of story, camera-is-alive videography, and direction) just doesn’t compute when it’s supposedly the same William Higgins that is responsible for the supremely UN-creative Czech material. Maybe there was some additional crew who made huge contributions to Higgins’ heady early classics. Or maybe he has really had no actual involvement in making the Czech porn. Even the long writeups have always been so sadly paint-by-numbers and un-titillating.

Ashfield’s historic cock was the penis used in the stunt-dicking done in a lot of the gayporn of the late eighties. The mostly unfortunate practice of stunt-dicking (e.g., trying the make people think that, say, cute Steve Hammond was actually doing the bare penetrating when he *wasn’t*) — was almost defensible when a dick as prime as Ashfield’s was often serving as the stand-in.

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I feel exactly the same way about that ranger scene. There are few scenes in the history of porn that unfold more gradually and achingly without losing momentum. And you know I have bareback on the brain 24/7, but this is a moment in porn history when you know that two guys in the woods and one is rimming the other one means that the next step is to shove that dick in there with nothing but spit for lube. I mean that is pretty much why anyone who has seen Brokeback Mountain never stops thinking about that scene in the tent. It’s so primitive.

Speaking of which, there’s a scene in that movie that is simply a plot device, and yet it’s as hot as anything I’ve ever scene. The two guys, the sailor being one of the two, end up fucking while the other guys are sleeping. And the tension between trying to be discreet while also fucking in the open and not giving a shit about getting caught (which mirrors what happened at the beginning of the film that caused the sailor to question his own sexuality when waking up and catching Leo Ford going at it) is just mind blowing.

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Sailor in The Wild ❤️ I would go see it on the big screen if there were a screening. There’s so much in it that’s unforgettable, that scene on the beach is breathtaking, and forest ranger Bill Henson, so hot that the guy fucking him couldn’t last much, and I came even quicker than him watching that scene 😂

@popscticke:disqus I used to call Leo and Lance, Sailor in the Wild, and The Young and the Hung the holy trinity of porn. I think it had more to do with my limited knowledge of porn and the sequence of how I came to them versus any real relationship among those three, although Leo and Lance and Sailor were consecutive. Y&H is an outlier on that list, but I think there’s an argument to be made that those are his best three. There are at least half a dozen more that I think are absolute gems, though, including Pizza Boy: He Delivers. David Ashfield fucks Grant Fagan in that. The number of men that WH inspired me to be mildly obsessed with is just too long to list, but both of those two make the cut. David’s cock had to have been sculpted by Rodin.

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