I can’t speak to the circumstances surrounding why he left.

But isn’t Clay a once director for Broke Straight Boys who had to be fired because he interfered with the models on the regular, promising them extra work if he’d let them do things to them?
That fact alone should make cream pie-loving people reconsider their choices…

All porn is essentially play acting. I try to make an effort to avoid the plays where the (repeated) message makes me feel uncomfortable. But people collect different playbills for different reasons and that’s fine.

The other thing I’ll say about Clay is those other site owners (and you could extend this to the original Sean from Sean Cody) had that obsession, but their mindset seemed to be “I’m finally getting to hook up with this guy” while Clay’s is more “I’m finally getting to fuck over this guy.” Like those other men were in the trenches, on their knees, dicks in mouths, ass in their faces and for some more than others, with dicks in their asses too. I don’t watch Clay’s scenes so I can’t speak to him doing all those things on his various sites. From what I’ve seen those other men were getting pleasure from doing things with the guys they had fantasized about. Clay is getting pleasure from doing things with the guys he wished they had fantasized about doing specifically with him. Would you ever see a video with Clay doing nothing but sucking dick or eating ass? Bottoming? Or a video where his focus is on pleasuring someone else. Even something simple like a massage video. Jake is probably the most comparable to Clay in terms of body shape (since Victor doesn’t do anything but suck and bottom). They both handled their onscreen appearances differently.

I take your point with Clay, but in my experience, his scenes always read as play acting in that regard. A handful of scenes with repeat bottoms (Patrick Raposa was one, but there’s another whose name I’m forgetting) were so intimate that they appeared to drop the straight/captive fantasy altogether. To me, he’s only a little more committed to the straight fetish than Bryan Ockert, who to me was more annoying because his opportunities with guys like Vander , Bay, Darius, Jet, and Eli were so vast, and for years he seemed to lock them into his ridiculous “let’s watch this straight urchin fumble with you for 20 minutes even though you obviously would more enjoy getting gangbanged” fantasy.

But you’re right, and I’ve done my share of cherry picking Clay’s scenes so that they affirm the version of him that I prefer. And you know that when he is the only consistent creampie top in this whole conversation, I am only going to be just so objective about his faults.

The commonality between Jake, Victor and even Rob from Military Classified or the former site owner known as Bryan Ockert is they don’t degrade the models or treat gay sex as some type of punishment. Clay is on his own island with that one. But all those men do have an unhealthy obsession with straight-presenting men. Victor takes it to another level by not letting the models interact with each other or get into any backdoor or sucking action. There are plenty who I don’t think would mind and would in fact be chomping at the bit.

Just because you or I may not find Victor attractive, it doesn’t mean all these men are cringing through their experience. Or that they need disposal income proof to show their parole officer.

That’s the same basic argument I made about Jake Cruise and that I continue to make about Clay. As much as I dislike this site (and I really, really do), my beef is more like that joke about “the food was terrible and the portions were too small.” If this guy is going to cast himself repeatedly in porn scenes, I wish to god he’d grow a pair and act like he thinks he belongs there. I do not want to watch hot tops fuck a bottom who is hiding in shame under a paint tarp.

I love it! Now everyone in the scene is too awful to take their clothes off.

Just because you or I may not find Victor attractive, it doesn’t mean all these men are cringing through their experience. Or that they need disposal income proof to show their parole officer.