Well, regardless of how they manage these sites, what they should actually be doing is improving the quantity and quality of their gay scenes, and not trying to copy the most homophobic business model from the likes of GayHoopla. Incredibly disappointing and insulting. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Yep, they used to have separate sites for those that eventually closed. I also think these are just separated to capitalize more on their coed content. It didn’t seem like the coed section will completely move out of CF and become exclusive to those new sites, at least for now. But I’m pretty sure they’ve been filming more and building a bank of bi content behind the scenes especially these last few years. They didn’t spend the past two years releasing fewer gay content (despite obviously filming regularly) for nothing, you know. When Kyler slipped up and mentioned Riley’s bi scene on CF’s tiktok, he had to stop himself halfway through the sentence. This already shows that it has been going on behind the scenes for a while now. Besides, they wouldn’t have bothered buying new domains just to dump all existing coed updates from the main site. You’ll see more of what I’m talking about once the re-release of old content is finished. Don’t say I didn’t warn you guys.

I’m glad you feel as outraged as I am towards all this bullshit. If this studio is still run by a gay man, he should be ashamed of himself for all this homophobic and heteronormative nonsense. That said, however, I believe these sites will just be a scam to get more people to sign up by hiding the gay content and not necessarily producers of new content. They already had specific bi and straight sites before (coed something it was called, where they just re-released CF updates with other dates), but both flopped with time, so I don’t really understand why they think this time it will be any different.

It’s all in the eye of the beholder…..

I loved the incest stuff, but I agree with you for this reason — it is so damned played out that I could go forever without seeing a new one. This gif is 7 years old (judging from the aspect ratio, I’m thinking the ad itself is even older), and is from a Flo from Progressive commercial that I actually liked. Now I’m about one more commercial away from making a Flo voodoo doll and stabbing it with pins.

I don’t think CF will go in that direction because they have never shown much interest in cross-gen stuff. This was just someone who had run out of ideas for scene description, I’m guessing.

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No problem and I agree with you. Perhaps we need to write to Corbin Fisher directly voicing our concerns. After all it is gay operated studio and not mind geek.

I wish all of gay porn would stop with the Father & Son crap the idea of a father fucking his son is not a TURN ON it’s a https://media2.giphy.com/media/eWnMIPt4KtcIMYKz38/giphy.gif

We’ll just have to wait and see what the developments will be.
And keep the pressure on the gay productions. (From the gay producer that renounces himself.)

This promotion of the new bi site … I think it’s really weird seeing those models of days gone by in recycled scenes recorded long ago in Tampa/Lithia, as if it’s all new. The misleading dates that go with the episodes are pure deceit. And to know that some of these models have deceased some time ago.

Well, ethics in the world of porn … non existing?

I don’t think there’s any because affiliate write-ups are usually driven by money so take what they say with a grain of salt. Their job is to advertise the new scenes and basically serve as a mouthpiece for these studios and content creators that pay them. This is why I prefer WB when it comes to newly-released promos because it’s more consumer-based. Downside is it can be more chaotic here. LOL!

I don’t care how minimal the coed exposure is in these bi scenes. Pussy is pussy and I’m not about that life.🤣 It’s hard enough being gay in this cruel world, and now even in our own escape world of porn, pussy still gets prioritized over us? All those pairings and guy-on-guy action could and should be done without pussy too that’s why I’m always in my feelings when talking about my issues with this whole thing. Just saw the BCF promo and I really hated how they made sure to highlight Dylan taking an oral cumshot from Rocky knowing that they still refuse to give the gay side that kind of cum eating action for him to this day.

75 already? The migration is much faster than I expected.

Thank you and I appreciate that. It’s just so disappointing to see this from a gay-owned studio that’s already an institution within the gay community. It’s something I expect with straight-owned studios but not from a gay-owned, gay-operated studio. Us consumers are the main driving force for all the changes that has happened and will continue to happen in the industry. Even OF wouldn’t have been a hit if it wasn’t for us consumers settling for less. So I refuse to make the same mistake and just let them treat the gay side like some stepchild they no longer want because pussy is the new fad. I’ll continue to voice out these concerns because it’s the only way we can let them know that the gay side deserves better.

Will do, because we need to stand our ground as consumers and not let the industry take advantage of us.

Well… Ethics has left the chat. LOL!

David I understand you and we do disagree on some points and please dont apologise, as I dont have an issue with that. Unlike some of the other commentators over the years on here, who can be unconstructive and disrespectful in their responses it you have difference of opinion!

Corbin Fisher is a business and like Gay Hoopla, know they dont have to please their Gay Audience, offering an inferior product which is not going to change any time in the future. I hear you where say that you ‘find they do care about their customers a bit more than other studios from my experience.’ However times have changed, and they are aiming for Bi/Hetero market hence the quality going there and on the Gay Side it is not going to improve.

They probably predicted that they will lose some of their gay fan base, but this will be made up by the aforementioned above and is sad refection of the times. Gay Hoopla are the same! CF use the term Gay Own and… I cant remember the rest but that’s changing now!

Let me applaud you, your analysis is excellent.

I found the P.A.-song website. I should have known. And yes it makes sense if that particular article was sponsored. I didn’t pay much attention to that and didn’t look for ‘hidden messages’, I just attributed it to the weirdness of the site owner.
Such a shame that there isn’t any website/blog that provides honest and independent reviews of gay productions (I don’t know any).

Concerning the bi component of CF there is something more to consider.
I never followed that department very close, because I’m not really interested. But rather recently I discovered that a lot of the bi episodes are in fact nothing but gay scenes with a girl present doing nothing much except vocally encouraging the guys.
This absolutely is the case with the ‘Teasing’ series.
Let me give an example: “Dawson & Austin Teasing Delila” (Oct. 1 2010):

It starts off as a gay duo between Dawson and Austin. Connor –not credited in the title– is seen filming fully clothed, but later on joins the other guys, making it a gay trio. Both Dawson and Connor ejaculate in Austin’s mouth (hmmmmmm).
And Delila just stays on a couch on the side and takes no part whatsoever in the action.
This whole scene is made for gay eyes (see what these ‘straight’ guys do) and if you can tolerate the presence in the room of a girl … well the trio is pretty hot.
Catching the girl in the frame is kept to a minimum. This is so in lots of other bi-scenes. Very often the camera avoids to ‘catch’ the girl, especially when the guys climax. I even believe the girls are instructed to be very aware of the camera position and not to force themselves into the frame. Very often there are edits to keep the girl out of sight.

I don’t know if this is the case with the majority of the bi episodes, and if it is still done this way in the more recent material, but a lot of the older bi scenes absolutely don’t have the typical bi sex one might expect. I haven’t checked, but if the predominately gay oriented bi material ends up on the new bicollegefucks … well, visitors might be treated with an unwanted surprise.

But so far only 75 bi scenes are on the new site. Out of a total of 246 bi scenes they ever published until today.

Of course I do. I also don’t mind if someone would call him unattractive or not handsome at all. Everybody is allowed to have personal preferences. But “u…” is so damned derogatory and making it sound as if it is a universal truth is just weird.

I can understand that but they can boost the bi side and continue filming them without hurting the quality of the gay side but that’s not what’s happening. Even if you say the straight-loving audience is what they were targeting, it doesn’t make sense that the gay side isn’t getting much of the same great pairings and direction like the bi side does. Like I said, I don’t mind coed updates but it’s got to a point where quality of gay pairings have been affected. That’s why guys like Roman and Noah seems to be getting overused when the non-gays are paired with each other less. It would’ve been fine if their gay models are hot and totally verse like Roman, Elian or Max. But lately, they kept bringing in less attractive and unpopular one-trick pony bottoms and fake-verse bottoms who can’t really top, resulting in a lot of bad deja vu moments these past few years. Meanwhile, the non-gays get minimal gay scenes with each other. The more I think about it, the more I realized how much this secret project has been affecting the quality of the gay side these past few years. Chasing straight-loving audience is not enough excuse to let the quality of gay pairings take a hit for the bi side’s benefit. After all, the gay side has always been the bread and butter of the studio. My thing is, they were better at balancing things before and that’s something they need to learn to bring back. Not like this where the gay side gets inferior direction and pairings while the hotter models are busy filming more coed content with each other. Guys like Barron has long suffered bad repeat pairings with the same power bottoms despite the fact that there were other verse models he could get paired and repeatedly paired with in gay scenes even if he sticks with being a top. And like I said, the dip in quality of their roster has mainly affected the pairings on the gay side thanks to Richie West, Noah and other less attractive limited power bottoms they kept bringing to the studio to handle the gay side. In their desperate attempt to revive the coed side and make more money off their pussy content, they settled for less and lowered their standards when recruiting gay models which led to the gay side getting the short end of the stick. I don’t care if they want to create a separate bi site. My issue is how it’s affected and continue to affect the quality of gay pairings. All of this is counterproductive in their supposed goal to focus on G4P crowd. Because what’s the point of having these better quality bi pairings if a lot of their gay pairings leave a lot to be desired?

I kind of disagree that they don’t value long-term loyalty because I find they do care about their customers a bit more than other studios from my experience. At least that’s what I felt before but lately, I feel you might be right that they don’t care about customer loyalty. As much as I understand your point about the business side of things, I can no longer bring myself to make excuses for them and just accept that the gay side matters less. We are the customers and the demand comes from us. It pays to be critical about these things and not sell ourselves short. Otherwise, the gay side will continue to be treated as less than the coed side. So I apologize if I can’t always agree with you and just accept that the gay side is some secondary priority because I know we all deserve better than that.

Female sheep?

Some people find Noah cute….. you’ll allow that, won’t you?

As @moondoggy would say, it’s that place that had a Paula Abdul song on its name. I can see where you’re coming from about the whole re-release situation but I’m personally not too bothered as it’s basically just a migration process that will likely be over soon. BCF isn’t just a place to dump their existing bi content to and it’s certainly not an overnight decision. This has been years in the making and they’ve clearly been filming more and more bi content this pandemic. I remember Kyler had a slip of the tongue on their tiktok and mentioned that he walked in on Riley filming a bi scene. That was in 2020. Zander also posted a comment on IG before that he did a bi scene with Kyler, most likely in 2020 too. The fact that they’re now ready to launch the site means they’ve already amassed enough bi content. So I’m more bothered by the fact that they they took advantage of the pandemic and sacrificed quantity (and quality to some extent) of the gay side to fund and develop a whole bank of bi updates behind the scenes. Like, okay… I don’t mind if they wanna keep doing bi scenes but the way they did and continue doing it was shady as fuck. Like I said before, I can tolerate coed updates to some extent but not when the gay side is getting the short end of the stick. Did they really have to hold back the most requested pair’s gay scenes so bi scenes get first dibs on them and/or give their gay scene inferior direction and climax just so their bi scene will stand out? It’s also impacted the quality of the roster and pairings because of guys likes of Richie West who they filmed a bunch of gay content with despite the backlash just to fill up their gay scene vault while hotter guys like Chris and Dylan are too busy filling up their coed vault. It makes more sense now why they lowered their standards and repeatedly brought Richie West back, and why they chose to hire an OF gay recently. Now that they’ve officially launched the bi site, I’m really worried the bi side will get prioritized even more and we might see a lot more of the best and most requested pairs’ scenes get released on the bi side first while they make the gay side wait for our turn. Like, where are some of Barron’s scenes with other non-gay models like Chris? Or Marco’s? Marco/Dylan has been heavily requested since last year. I’m seriously worried for the future of gay content, especially ’cause Roman’s really the only gay model they have that’s truly interesting. The past few weeks alone feels like a glimpse of the future, with more Richie West, Noah and Jared while hot pairings between non-gay models like Chris/Dylan are old scenes that’s basically a hand me down pairing from the bi side. I dunno, but just when I was starting to feel more confident and secure about the gay side’s future after taking a short break and then seeing the Levi/Roman scene, I’m back to worrying about it.

Don’t worry, I’m also not getting any notifications. Disqus seems to be having issues again.

Being late to the party as per usual I think you are correct re the prioritisation of the Bi side of the business over the Gay Side. I stated within my long post to Moondoggy yesterday afternoon, that quite frankly It is not a surprise! Corbin Fisher like Gay Hoopla is a business which is constantly, evolving wanting to grab their ‘Straight’ audience attention, which is far more lucrative and acceptable.

Hence why when they advertise for new customers, they offer both sites together, which Is a cheaper option, than just joining the Gay site, which is a ploy attract a more lucrative and younger fan base.

I said load more in my previous post but ultimately CF and Gay Hoopla are aiming for a younger crowd the 18 to 20 somethings hetero’s ,and possible bi guys to boost their custom base.

The Bi Side is what they believe that is what their fans want, and will result in their recruiting more attractive ‘Straight’ models to their business. Thus in turn will generating new fans and gain more income for them from a wider audience.

Corbin Fisher is are like the majority of business’s who dont value long term loyalty from their customers and are not bother if their existing fans get upset with the change, as to them, it is a ‘Business Need’, and they can please themselves ultimately!