They started releasing more bi content the past year, hence why I said they’re ramping up their coed releases. And in the beginning, they were doing more than one cum eating climax like the Rocky/Dylan bi scene then the Rocky/Chris bi scene which is what I complained so much about at the time. Mind you, we don’t see double cum eating moments in gay scenes. Also worth noting that at the time, Dylan doesn’t take an oral cumshot yet they were able to do it in his bi scene. They didn’t push his boundaries that far in his gay scenes at the time and in fact, it took a whole year before we see him do it in a gay scene. I had to fight hard for that moment to finally happen in a gay scene. Look… I know some of this is my overreaction and personal preference like you said, and I really appreciate the stats you gave. But at the same time, looking at things on hindsight and seeing the overview doesn’t always give a clear picture. It’s a completely different experience when you’re in the moment watching and waiting for new updates every week. It’s hard to explain but I know you understand this on some level ’cause you’ve also been following CF updates for a long time now.

Well… In comparison to 2022, 2021 was a much better year for recruitment. 2021 was also the year we got more new guys who went through CF education. They build them up well and it was that batch of guys who gave us consistent bottoming debuts, which hasn’t happened at CF in quite a while. It wasn’t THAT many new guys, I know. But it was a time when CF felt like CF again because they focused more on getting new guys and bringing back the CF education. 2022 updates benefited a lot from their recruitment efforts in 2021.

I’d love to chat some more but it’s already weekdays and my sched’s kinda hectic lately so I’ll have to end it here. But thank you for taking the time to respond. This was a fun conversation. Let’s hope for a better year for CF and gay porn in general. Have a nice day. 😀

Maintaining two additional sites isn’t very expensive.
Making content is though.

On what grounds do you think they are putting so much effort in “ramping up their filming and releasing of coed scenes”?
I don’t see that in the figures of what is being published:

year: gay; bi; str8; % bi+str8 of total

2016: 113; 26; 59; 43%

2017: 107; 14; 50; 37%

2018: 92; 3; 42; 33%

2019: 94; 1; 41; 31%

2020: 66; 3; 24; 29%

2021: 70; 5; 19; 26%

2022: 80; 11; 16; 25%

2023: 21; 2; 3; 19%

2023 up until now

gay= not the solos

Plus bi scenes are typically more expensive from what I know, even more so whenever they make so many cum eating moments in one scene.

They might be more expensive, but where are those “many cum eating moments in one scene”? In the 16 bi-scenes from 2022 I count 2 scenes where cum is being swallowed. 1x Rocky; 1x Chris. I don’t count as swallowing some instances of facials, cum on tongue and the like.

They were doing so well with introducing new guys in 2021 …

Really?????
14 new guys in 2021, 5 of them didn’t do anything gay and we can’t really count in Brett II, Elian’s buddy. So that leaves 8 and 4 of them only did a very limited number of gay scenes and are gone.

I wouldn’t say they were doing so well.

… then a shift happened in 2022.

Regarding the new models, this supposed ‘shift’ is hardly significant.

I wonder if you look at it all objectively enough, instead of letting your judgement be guided to much by your personal preferences?

Indeed, we don’t always agree, but at least our discussion is ‘healthy’.

Ok Dear Ok Mate! Bloody Hell, I have clearly rattle you by not agreeing with your comments and it not about coming at anyone, its called discussion pal!

As Jermaine Jackson once said, “you really cannot reason with stupidity!”

And for your information I dont gatekeep everyone comments on here, I merely reply to them, as and when I feel like doing so, as I am passionate about gay pornography, as are most of the other commentators. It only when they decided to nasty and personal which you fallen into this trap, its when I block them, as life is far too short to waste time being nasty and mean girlish to other people who doing agree with your comments. And unfortunately this site attracts some down right nasty delusional individuals over the years.

Ta for your defence of me to Scrapple, and I am pleased that you are following my comment everywhere, but you are mistaken re the Only fans comment, as its a comparison when mentioned. You will find that I have argued against them a lot, but what I expect and desire is the same high standard of men to appear on Corbin Fisher which is not quite the same thing as being fanatic about them, as lot of their content is lazy and lacking.

For the record I bleeding love Corbin Fisher et al, and the genre as you keep on stating. But as a realist I accept their newer approach!. Its not what I prefer, of course as like yourself and others, I want to continue seeing newer unknown amateurs on the site, but times have changed. And as business Corbin Fisher have had to evolve. I mean look at Gay Hoopla with their decision on their 10 year anniversary not to continue producing Gay Hardcore Fuck Scenes and concentrating on solos only returning back to it Frat Men origins!

Re Tyler yes he is ok and is gonna appear more on the site as he is popular so that it! Re Damian Knight he is an exceptional performer but is way over exposed on Corbin Fisher hence the complaints from others on here and other site, not only from myself . Plus he is all over Social Media and has become vacus gay porn personality and I told him that. But he dont give a fuck as he is earning his coin and still gonna appear so that’s cool! And he is also on Only Fans lol!

Re your observation of my obsession re OF/JFF, you still dont get it it about the fact that there are hotter guys on there which CF need to tap into and it promote their site thus attracting other unknown hotties. They do run beside each other but I would not want CF to turn into Sean Cody with an over reliance on these guys. Houston is perfect CF model but is gonna be a total Dylan clone re being totally disengage in his performances with other men and I accept that the usual college education is gonna be wasted on him. Fact!

DD whether you bother to read or respond to this is your choice. But what I will say, is that I see the lads who appear on this site over the years have provided a great fantasy for us Gay Men to enjoy. I dont see them like you and some of the other on here as being their life partners.

They are there entertain us, by having hot gay sex, gain our attention and earn good money, which we are a paying well for!

Have a great day.

Cheers

I mean, maintaining two additional sites isn’t exactly cheap. Plus bi scenes are typically more expensive from what I know, even more so whenever they make so many cum eating moments in one scene. Besides, with or without the new sites, they’re still out here ramping up their filming and releasing of coeds scenes so it’s still affecting their budget. If they weren’t wasting people’s money on filming more coeds and paying female talents, they’ll probably be able to offer better compensation to their male talents. And maybe then, they would’ve had a higher chances of getting more new guys. But no, they chose to invest more on coeds and now we barely got any new guys since the past year.

I guess they decided to prolong the re-releasing of old bi content before they start releasing the new ones they’ve been filming these past few years. Or maybe they changed their plans about what they would want to do with their new pussy porn studios. I dunno… But anyway, I heard through the grapevine that they’ve been ramping up their filming of bi content since the pandemic started so the vault is definitely deeper than it seems. Hopefully, this new release schedule for BCF will help them refocus on recruitment of new guys and lessen the pressure to film more coeds. They were doing so well with introducing new guys in 2021 then a shift happened in 2022. They’ve gotten more aggressive at promoting and releasing coed scenes. They even ruined the long-awaited first-time pairing of Chris and Dylan by prioritizing the release of their bi scene. I’m still pissed about that ’cause they ruined what could’ve been an important gay porn moment for the benefit of bi scenes. Seems to me that in their effort to ramp up filming coed scenes last year and revitalize the coed section, recruitment efforts were sacrificed and they settled with experienced gay porn performers from other studio so they could continue filming gay scenes while the other guys continue filming more coed scenes. As a result, we get the Tyler Tanners and Richie Wests of the group. In the end, it’s all for benefit of coeds. It’s a shame ’cause coeds are supposed to benefit the gay side but now it’s the other way around. Oh, and did you know that they had BCF listed under straight porn category on porn sites? Which means it’s target audience are straight folks and not PLUs. 🤦‍♂️Honestly, I now find these ladies to be an even bigger scam than the queer-baiting guys on OF. ‘Cause what the fuck do we need these girls for if your recruits are mainly experienced gay porn models from other studios? They’re taking so much money from gay men yet the gay side isn’t getting the benefit of enjoying hot new guys in gay scenes. They need to get their shit together and do better.

Sorry for the huge tangent. You know me, I can get really passionate when I talk about these issues. LOL! But thank you, really. I know we don’t always agree with everything but I’m glad to see people like you who still cares about the CF brand.

I’ll join in with the hoping mob, but I’m not sure if the death of ‘Gay’Hoopla will mean anything significant for CF. Maybe it could give Jason a psychological boost, time will tell.

‘Cause how do they have that much budget for more coeds and launching of 2 new pussy sites …

I don’t believe they spend so much more budget on that. It’s all just old wine in new bottles, primarily meant to bring in more revenues. Nothing, zero has been published on HCF and BCF that hasn’t first been published on CF. The new coed stuff mostly is very soon also published on the ‘new’ sites, sometimes even simultaneously, for the rest it’s old stuff, even from prehistory, just remastered.

Until a few weeks ago HCF and BCF had a steady update schedule of 2 every week. But they stopped doing that on BCF, which now only updates once a week. And … for the same membership rates, not cheap!!
It’s my guess that they did this because they would too soon run out of content, the archive of bi-scenes isn’t that extensive to keep going for years with 2/w.

I have my doubts if these new sites are really successful, but I don’t have clues for that. Just a hunch.

With the death of Gayhoopla, I hope it will give CF the advantage and motivate them to hire more new guys. But if they’ll still prioritize coeds and continue to compromise recruitment like they did last year, then I guess it really means they don’t care about their gay fans. This is why I’m not quick to blame OF because a lot of it was CF’s doing. ‘Cause how do they have that much budget for more coeds and launching of 2 new pussy sites yet a male talent recently complained about the barbaric pay in this studio? No wonder they can’t get new guys because their priorities are all fucked up. They’re too busy chasing a different crowd while sacrificing what their core fan base really wants. I swear if they continue prioritizing coeds, they’ll end up like Gayhoopla. So before it gets too late, I hope they’ll do better and shift their focus on getting new guys and bring CF education. I don’t wanna keep my hopes up too but I still wanna root for them.

Thank you for your extensive answer.

I truly believe they can still do it.

I’d love to help you hope, but I think I’m a little less optimistic.

Compliments for your very to the point analyses.

This will be the last time I’ll address….

Very wise decision. But most likely you wouldn’t even be allowed anymore. I suspect a block is on the way. His way of dealing with opposing opinions.

You were the first to came at me. And in case you’re still not aware, you’ve been gatekeeping everybody’s comments here and that’s why you keep getting into confrontation with a lot of people. We’re the ones trying to stop people from expressing their opinions? LOL! Aren’t you the one all up in everybody’s comments and acting like a moderator? Like, I tried to be nice with you and didn’t say much about you moderating comments. I even defended you to @Scrapple at some point but dude, you’re really doing too much. You’re literally everywhere trying so hard to convince everyone that the concept of having new guys is no longer a thing even when it wasn’t that long ago that CF was consistently bringing back a number of new guys. And not surprisingly, those guys ended up being the most popular guys on the site in recent years because having new guys and bringing back the CF education is what a lot of fans love from CF. But you can’t seem to grasp any of that ’cause you’re so used to the world of OnlyFans. And now you’re going out of your way to try and change CF and our opinions to mirror the OF world. Sorry, but there’s a reason why a lot of us stuck with our favorite studio for years instead of relying on OnlyFans like you did. So stop trying so hard to convince us that OnlyFans is the only way to go and that CF’s concept of having new models go through CF education is not possible because it still is.

Also, how is it wrong to not like Tyler Tanner’s overexposed ass on CF yet it’s okay for you to not like Roman ’cause he’s been overexposed on social media? Jeez…

This will be the last time I’ll address this with you. But like I said, I’ll continue to express my desire for CF to continue their brand of amateur guys and CF education regardless of your complaints and disagreements. Because I didn’t come to this studio just to watch the same OF models I can easily watch on OF and other studios for a cheaper price. And so long as we’re here, us long-time CF fans and supporters will continue to fight for that. Have a nice day.

LOL! That would be great. At least then I wouldn’t have to deal with his nonsense.

You were the first to came at me. And in case you’re still not aware, you’ve been gatekeeping everybody’s comments here and that’s why you keep getting into confrontation with a lot of people. We’re the ones trying to stop people from expressing their opinions? LOL! Aren’t you the one all up in everybody’s comments and acting like a moderator? Like, I tried to be nice with you and didn’t say much about you moderating comments. I even defended you to @Scrapple at some point but dude, you’re really doing too much. You’re literally everywhere trying so hard to convince everyone that the concept of having new guys is no longer a thing even when it wasn’t that long ago that CF was consistently bringing back a number of new guys. And not surprisingly, those guys ended up being the most popular guys on the site in recent years because having new guys and bringing back the CF education is what a lot of fans love from CF. But you can’t seem to grasp any of that ’cause you’re so used to the world of OnlyFans. And now you’re going out of your way to try and change CF and our opinions to mirror the OF world. Sorry, but there’s a reason why a lot of us stuck with our favorite studio for years instead of relying on OnlyFans like you did. So stop trying so hard to convince us that OnlyFans is the only way to go and that CF’s concept of having new models go through CF education is not possible because it still is.

Also, how is it wrong to not like Tyler Tanner’s overexposed ass on CF yet it’s okay for you to not like Roman ’cause he’s been overexposed on social media? Jeez…

This will be the last time I’ll address this with you. But like I said, I’ll continue to express my desire for CF to continue their brand of amateur guys and CF education regardless of your complaints and disagreements. Because I didn’t come to this studio just to watch the same OF models I can easily watch on OF and other studios for a cheaper price. And so long as we’re here, us long-time CF fans and supporters will continue to fight for that. Have a nice day.

Bloody Hell Mate Damn! Your response DD is so defensive and over hostile pal Fuckkkkkkk! Mate I am neither desperate or claim to be an expert, but am just a bloke that just loves gay porn of all genres. I am certainly not an OF/JFF advocate, as I am fully aware that a lot of it is lacking with the Baiters et al. But at the same time some of it great!

My observation is that OF/JFF have way more attractive performers, who are making their coin/content. The guys are more aesthetically pleasing, which is what CF/SC/CM/NDS etc used to hire. But unfortunately the main studios have taken their loyal fans for idiots with deep pockets only interested in their hard earned dollars, and are producing crap content with the same old same old rinse, repeat, rinse models like CF Dane/Roman and are being revered for it and defended to the end, which allows than to continue and get away with it.

I actually prefer the Studio porn which I have followed from the beginning, who use to dominated the Gay Porn market and no longer do as they been lacking in content and have also been usurped due to unsavoury practices. Plus they dont pay the models enough and restrict them far too much. So not being satisfied with their content is ok in my opinion, but my point was being unrealistic re their using other models, and changing their set genre, does upset some of their core fan base, whose expectation are that they will keep to their original ethos and they wont as they are a business trying to survive in this competitive market.

My concern was you over chastising of their models. As you say that your happy with Eli due to his under exposure, but you clearly despise Tyler because he has appear on lots of other sites, and for me he is sweetie and like some of the other models, who you dislike profusely as you have stated, is just trying to get on in this challenging gay porn industry

Jeez what is with you mean girls on here! Bloody Hell!

Yourself/Scrapple/Quietest/ CA/TomCR et al, just want to belittle and be unconstructive so that other are not allowed to state their opinions! Seriously me ‘demonizing a lot of people’s comments, regardless if it’s positive or negative, just cause we don’t share your views.’ Yeah right DD just like your ‘none’ mean nasty comment!

Jog on pal!

Not that many. I know there’s still a lot of studio fans out there who still love the original concept of CF and wants to see new talents instead of the overexposed OF guys. Why do you think Houston’s second solo was still so popular with fans? Because CF fans are still craving for hot new college guys that CF used to offer. It’s just that there’s that loud one that keeps on campaigning hard for CF to follow OF because he sees things from the perspective of an OnlyFans consumer. That’s what happens when you stay away from the studio for a long time. Yes, he obviously doesn’t understand the concept of the studio and why CF education and model development is such an important factor to their brand. And now he’s out here desperately trying to convince us that OnlyFans is the way to go.

I understand your point and I am aware of the changes in the industry. I don’t expect CF to go back to the 2000’s era and introduce new models every week. I even said I’m okay with Eli who barely made content on OF. I guess what I need from them is more effort in bringing back actual new guys and lessen their dependency on experienced gay porn performers. And at least get someone who isn’t overexposed and doesn’t have dozens and dozens of scenes in various studios and/or have done (and continue to do) countless collabs on OF. Because what makes them Corbin Fisher is their brand’s concept of getting amateur guys to experiment and experience gay sex. Without it, they’re just another run-off-the-mill studio. There are plenty guys on OF and chaturbate who don’t/barely do any gay sex on their content like those GH guys. So if GH could get them to do gay scenes for their studio, then it’s still possible to make gay content with amateur guys. Look… they only introduce new guys once a month. That should give them more time for recruitment and convincing new guys to do gay scenes yet we barely saw any results. They spent the past year ramping up coed releases and giving our money to female talents yet most of their recruits are experienced gay porn performers who clearly don’t need women to agree to a gay scene. It doesn’t make sense and it defeats the whole purpose of their entire brand. I truly believe they can still do it. They just need to get their prorities right and exert more effort in recruitment. They already spent way too much time prioritizing coeds and sacrificing recruitment last year. It’s time they bring back the focus on what truly matters and recruit more new male talents.

LOL! I was busy with work and didn’t have the time to check out porn. I don’t spend every waking moment here, you know. Now, I’d rather enjoy my weekend than continue to argue online so all I will say is this: You clearly spent way too much time on OnlyFans that your view on studio porn has been screwed. You don’t even seem to grasp the core concept of this studio’s brand nor understand what actual studio porn fans need yet you come in here desperately trying to change everything based on your views of OnlyFans. You even have a habit of demonizing a lot of people’s comments, regardless if it’s positive or negative, just ’cause we don’t share your views. Heck, you can’t even make up your mind whether we complain too much or praise the studio too much. LOL! Sorry, but studio porn is very much alive and not everything’s about OnlyFans. You can try all you want but you can never change our opinions just ’cause you think you know the industry. And best believe we will continue to talk about what we want and need to see as consumers and longtime fans/supporters of this studio and studio porn in general.

I guess I am correct as you cant be bother to respond to my comment mate, and lets see who the next OF Model or Carnal Media Lad that Corbin recruits eh!😊

They’re same. So annoying and with thin small dick. Eli, Richie, now Tyler. so sick of unattractive bottoms like that.

the only fans i want are not much over exposed. or first time cherries gettin popped

the only fans i want are not much over exposed. or first time cherries gettin popped