I guess I just have no desire to see men get brutal with women, like with slaps and humiliating stuff that feels less like acting and more like they have a score to settle with the opposite sex. Strangely enough I have less of a problem with men getting brutal with men 😅

Have you never seen Rocco Siffredi? He's so famous, there's a Netflix documentary about him. I can't say how many of his scenes were done with companies that were Italian-owned vs. just hiring Italian casts. But he was known for gangbang scenes. Think Dawson's 20 Load Weekend, but then give it the aggressive vibe that Sketchy and FraternityX tried to capture (always awkwardly, IMO).

I'm suddenly wondering if Jeff Stryker's dom persona was at all inspired by Rocco. I really have no way of knowing, but one seems like it could have been a response to Rocco's shtick. If what I said turns you off, then don't google him because Jeff is to Rocco as Elmer Fudd is to Rambo. Rocco's dom scenes got pretty extreme. I don't require porn to be that brutal, but my original point is that Euro gay porn, Bel Ami included, is notoriously noncommital.

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I'm Italian, but I've never thought of looking at Italian straight porn 😅 And for some reason what you're saying turns me off of it harder.

I loved Gino back in the day. His scene with Jim Kerouac was the furthest BA ever went towards kinky.