Sean Cody: Archie Fucks Newcomer Ray

Bob Bilbert says:

You mean the guy who’s dick never gets hard and gives “just-the-tip” blowjobs?
I miss Nixon- even though he’s a homophobic, trump supporting, racist, douche-bro. He was boring as fuck, and a terrible actor, but at least he was pretty.

Jasper Taft says:

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More says:

And what’s the purpose of that 😂

More says:

Damn ur worse than me with the trolling. Go and watch some porn and nut and get the fuck off of here. Have a great day

Jasper Taft says:

My friend, I believe “More” is an alias account for someone else on here. Maybe TemPEST? Maybe Stevienobrains? There are numerous possibilities. But please know that “More” got his sorry ass handed to him by a bunch of people on another thread. Others, such as myself, are simply ignoring him and refusing to give him the attention he so desperately craves. It must frustrate him to no end. Tehehehehe!

Lanu Pongen says:

Yeah,I saw that as well. Actually believed it coz of his absence for long. Maybe the extra fat prevented Sean Cody from hiring him. But Archie looking like the hairiest and most sweaty snack I ever saw

markjohnson22 says:

I don’t know about Nixon, but I do recall that you are hesitant to acknowledge racism. So, would you kindly share which–if any–performers you believe have been credibly accused of racism?

Jasper Taft says:

I’m not sure where you are getting all of that. If this in regards to the recent Zane controversy, MisterB, myself and a few others were concerned that Zane didn’t get a chance to defend himself. If a person only knows one side of the story, they don’t know very much.

I hate the Confederate flag. I always have and always will. The flag means different things to different people. To me, it is Anti-American. It represents a period where a large chunk of the southern states were so offended that slavery was abolished that they seceded from the union and turned their backs on this country. But distressingly, you didn’t see anyone here upset that Zane’s flag was Anti-American. And to that extent, I wasn’t a fan of Zane or his scenes and I’m not personally attracted to him. But…I do believe he should have the chance to speak his mind on the matter. Does he believe we should go back to the days when black people were in chains and served at the will of their master? I would reckon probably not. Zane could have 100 black friends and a black boy/girlfriend for all we know.

I also had a very real problem that one poster (who will go unmentioned) was attacking people for simply liking the scene. Nobody defended Zane’s tattoo. Nobody. Not one person on here. Zane’s scenes weren’t for me, but I’m also not going to try and ruin other people’s enjoyment (as this poster was attempting to do.) The only people that do that are killjoys.

Racism exists in many forms. Do you know how many comments I’ve seen on here and other gay porn forums that are discriminatory against white people? LOTS. They never got called out on. And to that extent, do you know how much discrimination against gay people there is in the black community? I’ll give you a hint: it’s a lot. Why is none of this ever getting talked about?

I’ve learned not to judge people. During my lifetime, I’ve encountered so many forms of discrimination. Some people don’t like me because I’m gay, others because I’m a man, some family members didn’t favor me because I wasn’t the oldest, some don’t like me because I am one of those “resting frowny face” people and assume I am sad or angry when I’m in a perfectly good mood, some have hated me at work because I am a workaholic that “sets the bar too high” for the rest of the staff, and on and on. Personally, I don’t feel comfortable judging someone that I have never met before on a single tattoo that can mean multiple things.

Did you hear the story of the white restaurant worker who was fired for ordering a bunch of black men out of her restaurant just recently? The men claimed discrimination and it went viral and she lost her job because people jumped to conclusions and nobody got her side of the story. As it turns out, the men were known troublemakers who skipped out on bills previously. But since everyone judged her without getting her thoughts, she was fired. She was since offered her job back, but declined.

Summing it up: I don’t believe in judging people I’ve never met. I don’t believe in trying to assassinate someone’s character without getting their side of the story. I don’t believe in trying to ruin other people’s good time. And I also believe that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

markjohnson22 says:

One of the things that I love the most is the combination of illiteracy and rambling on that discussing racism brings out in white Americans.

I have to give you credit for being brave enough to attempt to answer the question (in the very limited case of Zane). But I’m fascinated that your first move is to defend the reputation of a white Texan who has a Confederate flag permanently tattooed on his body. I’m not a newborn baby. I’ve heard all the array of answers to “the flag isn’t racist.” I don’t find any of them credible. And I don’t think any black person would—at first glance—feel comfortable in the presence of someone who wore or flew that flag. And their fear would be a reasonable one. Wouldn’t you say?

Also, you’ve got to do some more reading and thinking if you think having black friends and a black significant other makes you not racist. The examples of white elected officials who held slaves or supported segregation while having black employees and offspring is high. Racism is not necessarily about virulent hate; it’s about maintaining a way of life in which white people benefit first. Once that’s established, a racist can be quite friendly, in fact.

And your concern over racist comments against white models will become more important when white models have a hard tome getting hired in this industry. That day is not today. People who say nasty things about white models aren’t keeping them from getting work. As unfriendly as those comments may be.

And your concern about homophobia in the black community. Wow. That’s actually a topic that people who are affected by it talk about all the time. So if you haven’t seen, read, or heard those conversations, you’re simply not paying attention but rather grasping at straws to distract (again) from the original question.

My point is: both you and B have been most committed to defending 1) a studio that severely limits the number of its nonwhite models (and did not when it was founded); 2) fans who think their sexual enjoyment should not be interrupted by others’ speaking their truth; 3) models who have made statements (through words or images) that others can reasonably find damaging.

Jasper Taft says:

Have a blessed day.

Jasper Taft says:

Exit polling showed black people favored Prop 8 by over a 2:1 margin, while at the same time, over 90% of them were voting for Barack Obama was President. Tell me that didn’t have an effect.

My point is that there seem to be different standards. On the whole, America doesn’t tolerate entertainers and famous people saying racist things. Hulk Hogan was fired, so was Roseanne Barr, so was Don Imus. Paula Deen had her stuff removed from shelves. You don’t see that kind of thing happening with all of the rap and hip hop artists that have rampant homophobia running through their lyrics. Why aren’t they fired and shunned? How did their record labels release it in the first place.? I don’t know that white racism is as bad as black homophobia — I don’t know what the percentages are. What I do know is that black homophobia isn’t the dealbreaker that white racism is. Sure, people like Roseanne have their supporters, but they’re mostly just ignorant Trumpists that get ridiculed all the time in the media.

But back to the original issue of Zane. As MisterB pointed out, it could have been something dumb he did as a youth. I can tell you that I, personally, did TONS of dumb things when I was a kid. I didn’t start wising up until I was in my mid 20’s. And yeah, some of that stuff was hurtful to other people. And I regret the dumb things I did. It’s why children don’t have the same rights as adults — their minds haven’t fully developed yet. If this tattoo was something dumb he did as a kid, how much do you want to blame him for that. There’s also tons of things that kids (in school) did to me that were stupid and cruel, but I try not to hold that against them. Adults often aren’t the same people they were as kids. It’s like Alanis Morrissette said circa 1996 – You live, you learn. Maybe Zane wants to get the tattoo removed? Maybe he’s embarrassed by it? Did you ever consider those things?

The common thread here is that I try not to judge people until I get both sides of the story. I’ve been wrongly judged too many times to do that to someone else.

Jasper Taft says:

I admit I could have chosen some of my words more carefully. I tend to speak in a figurative sense. When I said “nobody is talking about it”, I think I meant on here.

The term “racist” is thrown around here with disturbing frequency. Posters perceive a studio hasn’t hired enough black models? They must be racist! All of their subscribers must be racist! Of course, that isn’t the truth, but that is what some people are peddling on here. You haven’t come right out and called me or MisterB or anyone racist, but you seem to be implying it.

Let me tell you a true story: I think my sister is a racist. I think she is a Trumpist. I’ve never really liked her and I have as little to do with her as possible. Back when white cops (and to that extent, George Zimmerman) were shooting innocent black people to death, my sister and I had a lot of back and forth. She thinks every shooting was justified. I told them that none of them were (with the possible exception of Ferguson), but she’s “pro-police” and stupid and can’t be persuaded. We had another go around about a month ago. She absolutely hates Colin Kapernick and Nike for carrying him to the point she had a tweetstorm (or FB storm in this case) and wanted to burn a pair of Nike shoes as a political statement and post the pic on FB. I chimed in and what I posted made her feel like an idiot and she shut up and backed off. She lives in a state that still has the Confederate Flag as their state flag. I fully recognize racism is still a problem in this country. Do I think a lot of it exists among Trump voters and supporters. Yes I do. Do I think a lot of exists on this forum? No. No I don’t.

Back when Cosby first started getting the accusations, I did not form any opinions at first. I wanted to hear his side of the story. He deserved a chance to tell it. It wasn’t until he avoided the matter and talked about “innuendo” and more and more woman came forward that I realized he is a rapist. Distressingly, a lot of black people still believe Cosby (and R Kelly) because they view the allegations as “white people trying to take down a successful black man” but that’s another conversation for another day.

As far as Zane and the issue with SC goes, SC handled it HORRIBLY from start to finish. I acknowledge that, MisterB has acknowledged it. I don’t think anyone can deny that. They should have talked about it before releasing his scenes. They put them up, didn’t anticipate the backlash and quickly removed his work. Not only did they screw over paying customers, they screwed Zane out of any future he had with the company. I’ve known porn performers that are in the industry because they have sick relatives to care for. Or because they would be homeless otherwise.

Again, I try not to judge. What did you want to happen? Everyone get out the torches and pitchforks? Demand the firing of someone we’ve never met? Judge somebody we don’t know? Tell us what you wanted.

Jasper Taft says:

No it doesn’t frustrate me at all. Not one bit.

I’m guessing you’ve never worked as an HR person or a hiring manager or a manager in any capacity. When a manager has perceived that one of their employees has done something wrong, they (if they are a good manager) will sit the employee down and get their side of the story, and then make a determination from there. Hopefully they just don’t fire or write up the person without getting their side. That’s how it works. Ergo, I don’t believe that Zane should have been fired or whatever without getting a chance to speak.

Managers also very rarely take joy in letting people go. Because even if they believe they have justifiably let someone go, even if they didn’t like that person, they realize the strong possibility of how the firing might financially devastate some people, including the spouses and children of that employee. Perfectly innocent people. Maybe that person won’t land another job in a reasonable amount of time and ends up homeless? Look at some of the people in porn. Kellan from Corbin Fisher has a daughter with special needs to take care of. Scott Finn and others have been homeless or very close to it. The list goes on. What if Zane is in the same boat? Should we take joy if he was fired?

If Zane truly is a racist, we should hope that he learns and grows as a person, not cheer his firing. True story time: We recently had an employee that was fired because he liked to drink on the job. The person that informed management about it didn’t celebrate when he was fired. She actually expressed sympathy for him when she said “I hope he gets the help he needs.”

And to that extent, just exactly how much of a monster do you want to paint Zane? The money he earns from his scenes will probably fade quickly, but he faces a lifetime of awkward encounters and possibly disdain from people. Porn stars have gotten fired from their jobs IRL simply because they did porn. Relatives have frowned upon them. Zane risked and sacrificed a lot to bring pleasure to you and people like you. But it seems you would be perfectly happy to be the judge, jury and executioner of his character. I find that frightening.

One final note: You seem to love to tell me that I need to learn how to read and do math and see things from a different angle (things I already know how to do very well) and yet remarkably, you seem to have great difficulty grasping the concept of getting both (or maybe all) sides of the issues.

Jasper Taft says:

Done with you. I’m not wasting more of my precious time responding to your lies, gross exaggerations, bold statements without receipts and jumps to conclusion. I don’t know what you hoped to accomplish here, but you’ve failed. If you hoped to have that one thing that would just blow me out of the water and shut me up and finish me off once and for all — well you’re like the hundreds before you that tried and failed. If you hoped to brand me or MisterB or anyone else on here a racist, well you’ve failed at that too.

By all means, go back to your world of hatred and making decisions before getting all of the facts, if that’s what makes you feel better. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a pretty lonely one.

Jasper Taft says:

Hi MisterB! Did you see Elton from SC is now at CF? He is with my Elian. I’m tired so I go sleepy now.

markjohnson22 says:

I happen to think Jasper and I are getting somewhere. If you don’t want to participate, that’s fine.

Though it is rich that you, of all people, are complaining that someone else posts their thoughts too much. I post rarely. And I decided I wanted to go in on this one. My prerogative. Yours to respond or not.

markjohnson22 says:

Nope. You don’t get to tell me when or how to respond to this or any other post.

MisterB says:

Racism is complicated. As I’ve written before I believe that at least 70% of White Americans are racist to varying degrees, from being hostilely so to moderately so to barely so to not realizing that they are. The fact that some posters here expect the Porn Industry to be the ONE place (except where only Black people gather) to be devoid of racists is absurd to me, and no porn performer here is running for political office. KNOWING for a FACT that someone is hostilely racist is one thing. Someone being ACCUSED of being hostilely racist, with NO receipts, is another thing, particularly by posters here who have shown themselves to be greatly lacking in character themselves who I have NO respect for. Who are these people who ACCUSE someone of being racist? Who is Bob Bilbert for example? To me he is a long time SHIT STIRRER. Is he someone you would even want to know in person, if you did actually know him? But you are going to believe someone you do not even know? That is what helped Trump to get elected. People believing LIES on the internet posted by persons unknown to them, and with NO receipts.

MisterB says:

To me, the ONLY explanation for things being as they still are for the Black community is that at least 70% of White America is racist, to varying degrees. Many being non-hostilely so, but still detrimentally so and even ignorantly so. Because racism became so systemic to our society it becomes systemic to us. It becomes part of our society’s DNA. So accusing a White person of being a racist is rather like going to a duck pond and accusing a duck of being a duck. Other water fowl may be there as well, but most are ducks. Here if the rumor gets spread that someone (Curtis for example) is racist the next thing that happens is that he gets accused of being in the KKK and the Wild, Wild West need for a hangin’ takes hold. Only about 3,000 people are members of the KKK so the chances of Curtis being one are VERY SLIM, but he could be a racist to some degree, just as (I believe) MOST White Americans; including MOST White Gays and MOST White Porn performers are racists to varying degrees, from HIGH to LOW. One way concerned citizens can help at this PORN site is to avoid the ego driven annoyance of racial grandstanding and simply be supportive of the few Black performers who show up here. Strangely, those who love to ACCUSE a performer of being a racist (which does NO good) are MIA when a CUTE Black guy with a gorgeous brown body is being EVISCERATED here. INTERESTING!

MisterB says:

I’m guessing you might be a person of color, I could be wrong. If you are I understand you wanting individual White faces to direct your very understandable hate onto. I watch movies and series on how horrible the White Community has been to the Black Community and I become filled with such shame for being White. The recent PBS series on RECONSTRUCTION after the Civil War and the horrifying/murderous White backlash to that enrages me. But WRONGLY accusing someone of what they might not be does not help at all. I go back to Curtis. Photos I found of him HAPPILY socializing with people or color implies that if he is racist he certainly is not hostilely so. Racism is complicated and it is NOT one-size-fits-all. Millions of people are racist, to varying degrees, including some who grow our food that we eat or who work in the Malls or grocery stores where we shop, or most everywhere else White people are. Our elderly downstairs neighbors are sign carrying right-wing Trump supporters. They know we are gay and are not. What do I do? I don’t stand at their door screaming at them. In the Winter I clean the snow off their car when I’m out cleaning off ours. If a package is sitting at their front door I ring their buzzer and let them know. I sweep off their side of our shared porch when I’m outside sweeping off mine, and they are changing towards us. The wife’s scowl is now a smile. The husband will sometimes bring us pancakes he has just made or what’s left of a pizza they bought but could not eat all of. They are OPENING UP. That is how we effect change: getting the closed-up to OPEN UP by being our BEST SELVES. When they OPEN UP, love can find a place to be. When closed up, there is only room for their ignorance and hate.

MisterB says:

Changes can not occur on an interpersonal level if I’m the only one involved in that, and I am not. Important change can occur as more and more people get involved in that. I think of the vast pay disparity in Hollywood for Black women. Jessica Chastain just adores Octavia Spencer. They worked together in The Help. When they were to work together again and Jessica was to be paid WAY more than Octavia she DEMANDED that Octavia be paid the same, and she was. That interpersonal moment reverberated throughout Hollywood, sending an important message and awareness that emboldened the female Black Community of actors, and strengthened their support among the White Community who ignorantly hadn’t understand that change happens for the Black Community when White people DEMAND it! Interpersonal moments among the famous can influence more people than those moments among the non-famous, but both will get us to where we need to go more than accusing and hating and arguing and squabbling. That just sends each side running for their trenches. But that is just how I see it. You do it your way and I will do it mine. On of my ways is, of course, at the voting booth. I wanted Stacey Abrams to be the Democratic candidate for President. Since she did not run I support Kamala Harris. If a White person becomes the candidate he or she had better choose a person of color for their Vice President, hopefully Stacey Abrams! That is all from me. Otherwise it is repeating and regurgitating which is unfair to the other posters. What more could you possibly say, and what more can I? So, BYE!

Lanu Pongen says:

I agree. You can’t just set a standard for the hairy goodness that is Archie